Can one train to be a leader or is it an inborn trait?
I don't think leadership is an inborn trait; it's not a genes
thing. Rather, the environment plays a vital role. Professionals
should not have everything heaped on their plate right from
the early days. They should have opportunities to think and
plan and then develop the acumen to use these opportunities
to their advantage.
I don't believe there's any such thing as 'luck' in business;
it all depends on the plan one has. But it is not just enough
to have a plan. The environment should be such that people
are encouraged and prepared to grab the chances that come
their way.
But you must understand that everyone cannot be a leader
in every sphere. You have corporate leaders, military leaders,
political leaders and so on. Indira Gandhi was a good example
of a political leader. She grew up in an environment of politics
and when an opportunity came her way, she grabbed it. All
her life's training was available to her. So, to be a leader
you need two attributes: the environment and training. Equally
important is recognition of the fact that this is an opportunity
and one has to grab it.
Can organisations create an environment where leaders
are nurtured?
Of course they can. With due modesty, Tata Steel is an
ideal example. The company has produced and provided leaders
to several industries within the Tata Group as well as outside
it. I can name at least 25 ex-Tata Steel people who have gone
on to become chief executive officers elsewhere. Our chairman
[Ratan Tata] was with Tata Steel and some managing directors
of government steel plants were once with Tata Steel. The
company did not suffer because of their leaving; it simply
developed more leaders.
The leadership development environment depends on the person
at the top, since it is he or she who can provide the right
opportunities and challenges. When people feel insecure they
tend to keep everything to themselves. Then there is no delegation
and all authority is centralised. That's when there is a problem.
If there is free-flowing delegation, the environment becomes
conducive to developing leaders.
Do you believe that good leaders are those who vibe well
with their followers?
One cannot be a good leader if one doesn't have followers. A
leader on his or her own can do nothing; there always has to
be two-way communication. My idea of leadership centres on what
a chief executive officer ought to do to create endless opportunities
for two-way communication. If all communication is unidirectional
then you stop people from thinking on their own; you stymie
them, you kill initiative. Family enterprises often fall prey
to this sort of problem (they wait for the patriarch to make
a decision). We need to encourage people to think independently.
There should be a system whereby even people at lower levels
in an organisation can take decisions.
The mark of good leadership is how well the organisation
or institution survives when the leader withdraws. When an
organisation or institution is totally dependent on one person
then that is not good leadership. It may be good for the ego,
but bad for the organisation.
Good leaders must make sure that they will not be missed.
In any process of change management, the leader must lead
from the front and take ownership of the process. This responsibility
cannot be delegated. Leaders must create a sense of urgency,
not panic; they must embrace change even when it doesn't seem
necessary.
Is leadership only about people at the top?
No. In the recent tsunami, fishermen found themselves in a
situation where there was no leadership. So they took up the
challenge and went out of their way to rescue people. Everyone
can, in their own sphere, be a leader. Leadership operates
at all levels and it emerges in different situations.
I'll give you an example. In 1992-93 the mafia was rampant
in Jamshedpur. The police were not doing anything though they
had a force of 3,000; there was extortion, killing and looting.
I kept telling Laloo Prasad Yadav [then chief minister of
Bihar], "Please give us a good police administrator."
At a gathering of over 5,000 people, I finally told him that
we wanted nothing from him except law and order. He was suitably
embarrassed and said that he would send his best police officer.
That officer was Ajoy Kumar. He came and within three weeks
there was a difference. In three months he had cleaned up
Jamshedpur; and that's a benefit we still enjoy. I asked the
same police people what prompted the change and they said
Ajoy Kumar gave them self-respect. Leaders cannot put themselves
in ivory towers; they have to have mass support.
What about issues such as emotional intelligence?
Emotional intelligence is becoming increasingly important
today because people are getting more knowledgeable and they
want a leader who can empathise with them. Ajoy was a good
example. He would go out and help people down the line. There
must be an emotional bond with people.
Earlier, it was also important that leaders have charisma,
but these days charisma alone is not enough. Laloo is charismatic;
Manmohan Singh and P Chidambaram are less so. But the latter
are leaders because of their appreciation of the situation
and their ability to do what is required. To go back to the
importance of being ready with a plan and striking when the
opportunity arises, Manmohan Singh was ready with an economic
plan and, when the opportunity to liberalise came along, he
made the most of it.
So what are the chief attributes a modern leader should
have?
They must be able to empathise and communicate with their
followers. You have to be on the ball or you will be found
out. Another critical attribute is credibility. Today, because
geographical limitations are blurred thanks to the advances
in telecommunications, the role of a leader has changed, while
becoming much more important.
S. Ramadorai [the chief executive officer of Tata Consultancy
Services] is a different leader from me. I depend on eye-to-eye
contact but the kind of technology he has to deal with throws
up challenges of a different nature.
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